Friday, April 6, 2007

boot camp


I do confess that I am having a hard time with Garbanzo. All my clever parenting tricks work for about a week, and then he starts to slide. Then I spend my days being the enforcer, which leaves me drained and crabby and not real fun for The Gift to come home to.

So, I've been reading other blogs and listserves and resources. I'd like your comments, input, etc. on this posting, which echoes something we have done. We called it Martial Law, but I am re-thinking it and considering morphing it into Boot Camp. The posting is copied with the gracious permission of the author and is slightly abridged from the original

I called it "punishment camp" on the list though sometimes the kids and we refer to it as "prison camp." They are treated as if they were prisoners. Meaning, you don't speak unless you are spoken to. You don't have any privileges whatsoever. You eat what you are given. There are no snacks. There are no luxuries. You ask permission for everything, even going to the bathroom. I know this all sounds extreme but it works and some times behaviors have to justify it.

We haven't had to do this too many times but boy the results stick for ages. They remain in prison camp for as long as necessary. Usually they are out w/in a couple hours and the message & lesson are very well learned. They essentially do nonstop chores until there time is up. Pulling weeds, vacuuming baseboards, lots of cleaning stuff you usually only do for spring cleaning.

If there is no whining, no complaining and job done right, then they are released. Some get released earlier than others. I've only had one time in the history of starting this that I had all the kids in it at the same time. It is a pain for us as parents trying to come up w/ some things but we manage. The kids absolutely despise this so it definitely has an impact. They hate not having freedom.

I'm serious when I say no talking, no privileges.

One time I went so far as to make toast and water for breakfast. They knew I was serious. I make it clear to them that if they behave badly they will end up in prison for real. They all say if this is like real prison, we will never lie, cheat, etc. (whatever the offense was) ever again. I want the message clear as day that bad behavior in real life once older will have much more serious consequences than just doing chores all day.

None of these chores are what I'd call hard labor. Like I said spring cleaning stuff. What they don't like is they have to keep doing it. This is only done w/ extreme behavior problems.

Yet, all I have to do is mention it if we are in a car and behavior seems to be fine at our destination. I'll say in the car, if you can't behave at XYZ, then what will happen when we get home. Six of the voices( one can't talk yet) all say together punishment camp. So, we then have a pleasant dinner out, or bbq w/ friends, etc. It took us awhile to find something that worked.

Being the warden is tough b/c I literally have to give up whatever I'm doing to play warden and make sure they are doing wha they are supposed to be doing. Urghh. But, worth it in the end to have cooperative, respectful kids.

We used to make them run laps but that was never successful. They'd just laugh the whole time running and try to play tag.

Like I said, you have to find what works for all your kids. For us, doing chores nonstop seemed to help. And no luxuries such as soda or chips for lunch. If they are in prison camp, meals are kept very simple, boring. No good stuff as the kids would say. They finish one chore, they go onto the next. No stopping except at meals.

I figure if they can play nonstop all day, they are capable of doing chores nonstop all day. One time, I had them sort socks. At our home w/ 9 people, it's a nightmare job that everyone in the family hates to do.

This won't work for everyone. But we have 7 very individual children w/ some severe behavioral, mental and emotional issues. We found something that worked and we've used it since.

The reward system never worked at our house. We tried over and over again per recommendation of our neurologist/psychologists, etc. This works and our neuro said [name removed], if you ever find something that works, you stick to it! So we have. Well, that's the jist of it. Basically find what works and stick to it. I wish you all the best. Maybe we should have others chime in what works for their kids.

With lots of ideas, one might work for another family. What do you think??

Take care,



So, what do you think? Have you done anything similar? What cautions, concerns, encouragements, or advice do you have to share?

2 comments:

  1. Hey, Suz. I bet I commented on the original post...

    With a few classes that I've had, there was a need for a visual. I put a continuum on the board with "self-control" on one end and "teacher control" on the other. We talk about how in a group of people there has to be control and that if one cannot control oneself, one must be controlled. We list who that can be for children--parents, teachers,etc. and who it is for adults--policemen, jailers, etc. And then, as the day progresses, I move a marker of some sort.

    It was great for these two classes. It let me stop talking. I would just move the marker closer to teacher-control as the behavior disintegrated. Sometimes it was small movements, sometimes it was big jumps. It depended on them. With each class, it only took one afternoon of teacher control for them to not want it again--super strict control. (One class was just curious as to what it was and pushed to get it. One stumbled upon it honestly.)

    After that, they were able to pull themselves out of the behaviour. Having the visual really helped.They could SEE when they were losing control and get it back. (Oh yeah--the marker moved both ways, of course. As they regained control, it moved back.) The advantage with a class was that they'd help each other.

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  2. Kate I LOVE THAT! Thank you.

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